I’ve recently been arguing ideology with a reviewer of one of my papers. It’s quite strange that we don’t seem to do this much in HF and so I think we get pretty rusty - and resort to flame based shouting. In reality I’m not sure how much ideology should come into play when we talk about science - the scientific method should insulate us from most of this. But as humans we are fallible and so maybe a good argument means that we can change the way we think about ideas we have held sacrosanct for so long.